jreeten Send email
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Aug 22, 2017
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They refuse to work with anyone
I am a retired Firefighter and I fell behind by 2 months on my mortgage due to a Hospitalization and a 6 month tempoary Disability. I notified CENLAR of the problem and explained what had occurred and requested a Loan Modification by having those two months put onto the backside of the mortgage. The key puncher told me she could do nothing and told me to pay the two months in totality. I told her that I was still out on temporary Disability and did not have the money to do this. This person was getting nasty and discourteous with me after I told her I could not pay or get a loan as she insisted I do. I had to request a Supervisor 6 times over a 10 minute period prior to her transferring me to one. The Supervisor told me I would be receiving a packet to fill out and return to them for concideration for the Modification. He also stated I could make partial payments to try to catch up, however, I would be marked late every onrh until I was caught up. I told him we would be caught up by December's Due Date. The Supervisor stated that was fine, as long as I get the paperwork in.
I follwed his instructions, filled out the Paperwork as told, supplying ALL of the Documents requested. July's Payment was sent in with a third extra for one third of the missing May Payment. This was accepted by CENLAR. We did the same for the August Payment. CENLAR again accepted this payment and I contacted them to verify receipt of the paperwork. CENLAR Key Puncher stated the Underwiters had it for concideration. I met someone in front of our house while I was doing the lawn upkeep. She asked what the price was on the house. I said "WHAT?" She said she saw the house listed as a PreForclosure on the Trulia Real Estate site. I said that the house was not on the market! I called CENLAR asking what was up. The Key puncher stated we were in "Active Foreclosure" and she said to get out of it, "Borrow the Money you owe to catch up. I finally got a Supervisor after requesting one for 15 minutes. I was told the Underwriters didn't reveive anything from me. I told him that i was informed the Underwriters had the Paperwork. Again he stated the computer stated the Underwriters do not have it. I asked him for another packet. The Supervisor stated he would take care of this, and he did. I had a new Packet within a few days. This Packet asked for completely different paperwork than the first packet. I filled this packet out and sent it in to CENLAR. I followed up with another call, the key puncher telling me I was in Active Foreclosure. This one was a little nicer, she didn't make me feel incompetant early like the previous one did. She went through that prerecorded statement os get the money to fix it. I asked if the Paperwork was complete and accepted. She stated yes it was per the computer.
Within a day of sending the September and final May payment, I received this letter from CENLAR::::
Dear Borrower(s):
We previously wrote you in response to your incomplete application for any Homeowners Assistance Program(s) and provided you with a list of outstanding items we needed in order to complete your application. Subsequently we sent you a second letter, again requesting the outstanding items needed to complete your application. As of the date of this letter we have not received the outstanding items from you and your deadline to provide them to us has since passed.
In our earlier correspondence we explained that without the missing information we would be unable to complete your application and evaluate you for any Homeowners Assistance Program(s). Since you did not provide the outstanding items as requested, we will not be able to give further consideration to your request and will discontinue processing your incomplete application.
In order to avoid a negative impact to your credit rating resulting from late payments and to avoid foreclosure, it is important that you continue to make your mortgage payment by its scheduled due date.
Please send your payment in the total amount due to:
Loan Workout Department
PO Box 77408
Ewing, NJ 08628-6408
If you have questions about your mortgage payment, including the total amount due, please contact us at the number referenced above. If you have concerns about the evaluation of your mortgage for Homeowners Assistance Program(s), please contact us immediately at 855-836-5002.
Sincerely,
Loss Mitigation Department
This letter is an attempt to collect a debt and any information obtained will be used for that purpose.
LM307 001 AG V1
I receive this letter from them after I send in 3 Complete Packets, accepted by CENLAR. My September Payment was accepted and cashed by CENLAR. I also accepted a letter from EVERBank in Florida. It said I could catch up by continuing with the partial payments. I followed their lead and maid October's payment, plus a third of Jume's payment. This payment was refused and sent back to me with a formal notice of being in acyive foreclosure. I received yet another packet from CENLAR. This packet wanted all information about me, not just Financial. I filled the request out, and submitted all documents requested. I was told by a Supervisor the following: Underwriting has accepted your compete packet and are reviewing it. This was the end of October. I was sent yet another type of request from CENLAR and it just keeps going as laid out in previous words.
To me, they are just running up costs to me and asking for more information and putting arbitray expiration dates on documents. Yrs, this started with me being late on two months, I made up one month, even though my credit repot shows I haven;t made any payments ast reported by CENLAR to Trans Union, Experion, and the others. They keep accepting docs, the sneding requests for more, then finally that letter stating the haven't received anything.
They need to be dealt with, because I am quite sure they have done or are doing to others, Fraudulently and Illegally!!! They are doing this by phone, computer, on their site, and by mail. Therefore this is Federal in nature.
John Eeten
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Gagesmmy06 Send email
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Apr 29, 2017
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Worst Loan co EVER
My husband & I purchased our home in 2016. After the co switched hands to Cenlar its been nothing but problems! My husband is got laid off shortly after purchasing our home. We have went through several diff programs to help us with our mortgage because we've fell behind due to his layoff. Cenlar will NOT in anyway what so ever try to work with us to catch up our mortgage! The state approved us for several different relief programs, because my husband is a veteran-yet Cenlar keeps denying the programs. We busted our butt to get this home for us, & our 3 children, yet, Cenlar is doing everything in their power to ensure that we lose our home! They are the crappiest, most unprofeesional, and useless co weve ever had to deal with!
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jleveque Send email
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Feb 22, 2017
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Customer Service
Cenlar is absolutely the worst place for any kind of customer service. First off, I purchased a bank owned property and the County had my taxes based on if the home was in perfect condition. I had no problem having the taxes readjusted, but Cenlar refused to even look at the escrow account as they hadn't had it for 1 year. So there is an extra $400 just sitting in the escrow account that I would much rather apply to principal. They also refuse to accept bi-weekly payments. It you send them in that way, they send them back. Last, I needed a form signed by them (the reason doesn't matter) I asked them to rush it as I was on a time limit. The reply I received after 10 days.... was that the form was not necessary. Like I said their customer service is horrible. If I could match my interest rate, I would refinance immediately.
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maryfidu Send email
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Jan 29, 2017
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CENLAR
I HAVE GREAT CREDIT AND ALWAYS PAY MY BILLS ON TIME. I HATE CENLAR!!!! THEY ARE A HORRIBLE EXCUSE FOR A MORTGAGE COMPANY!! THEY SENT OUT A DELINQUENT LETTER TO ME EVEN THOUGH I PAY ON TIME AND THEY HAVE CASHED ALL OF MY CHECKS THAT WERE SENT TO THEM BEFORE THE PAYMENT IS DUE. THEN, THEY MAILED ME 2 CHECKS AND NOW SAY THEY RECEIVED MY MORTGAGE PAYMENTS. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THEM??? HOPEFULLY, THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WILL BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THIS HOFFIFIC COMPANY. I PRAY THAT THEY SELL MY MORTGAGE SO THAT I DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THESE IDIOTS. I'M REPORTING THEM TO THE DEPARTMENT OF BANKING AND INSURANCE.
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nyuhos Send email
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Jan 25, 2017
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Force Placing Insurance
Cenlar has been a nightmare, I own townhouse. I have renters insurance that covers the interior and my HOA cover the exterior. Cenlar continues to force place my insurance stating that the insurance coverage is either too much because they are looking at the declaration page from my homeowners association that covers the entire neighborhood or they are looking at the renters insurance which only covers the walls in. After MONTHS and HOURS of numerous calls, I am still dealing with it. Each time, I go through the process of them canceling the force placed insurance, I get a statement the next month with a new payment amount which includes a third insurance premium.
After calling again, I was told that they just need to run a new analysis and that I needing to make the higher payment until the escrow analysis was done, then I would get a refund. I asked for something in writing stating the same and they wouldn't provide it.
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squiresj1 Send email
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Jan 25, 2017
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PMI removal request
Been with cenlar for 2 years now. This is one messed up company. Their reps are very rude and not very knowledgeable. My home was appraised 2 years ago when the build was completed. Appraised for more than we bought it for. The LTV is currently at 85%. Ok, I know that my home will appraise for more and this LTV will be about 78%. I called a week ago to see if I can get my PMI removed. I pay 178 per month. I was told that I qualify for a PMI removal because I was never late on payments and after they do an appraisal to see I am at 78%, I would then get my PMI removed. I was told to email the request in. Did that and got an automated response saying it will take 3-5 business days for them to respond. I called them yesterday twice and got the same answer: Your home is at 85% and doesn't qualify for a PMI removal. And I have to keep PMI for 11 years!! Really? I do not understand and do not know what to do. I asked to speak to the PMI department and was told they are email only! What a messed up company! Don't get me started on how they are making me pay back an escrow shortage of 2800.
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mhowarth Send email
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Sep 30, 2016
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Improper Escrow Handling
Cenlar has been the servicer of my mortgage for almost a year. I can't get these folks to timely pay my property insurance from my escrow.
I have had cancellation notices for my homeowner's and wind and hail policies because of their actions. They are "less than honest" and have made every excuse... we don't have the bills, its processed, its not processed...Good job leaving a beach property without insurance during hurricane season. My carriers have faxed all of the requested information.
I have personally faxed all of the requested information. Their first level customer service call center is a joke and even escalation of complaints to a manager or supervisor hasn't been much better. Oh, and you can't talk with the insurance department directly unless you have a claim.
Oh, there will be a claim alright. PAY MY BILLS
P.S. I will be looking to refinance with someone else, but not until I file a complaint with the Department of Insurance. HEY. PAY MY BILLS
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cnorman Send email
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Sep 23, 2016
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Worse company ever
Ever since our loan was sold to CENLAR, we've had nothing but problems. They lose checks, say they don't receive them, and they are very rude. The software that they use for us to make payments is very outdated. I tried to make two payments from two different accounts on the same day and was told that I cannot do this and that I needed to make one payment now and the other payment the next day. When I called the next day, I was told that they don't take partial payments. Why did they put the first payment in suspense if they don't take partial payments? I cannot wait to refinance just to get rid of CENLAR.
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unhappycustomer40206 Send email
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Jan 26, 2016
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Will not enter correct routing number
This must be the most archaic system. I spoke with my bank and they confirmed correct routing and account info and Cenlar cannot get the funds because they either transpose or add a number. Then the send a notice via snail mail of the issue. Like stepping back into time. I wish my loan would be sold to a reputable company. You cannot even set up future payments via the system. It is almost as if they want you to waste checks, stamps, time and not get your money. Horrible experience.
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CENLARSUCKS Send email
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Nov 4, 2015
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Multiple ACH Debits
All i have to say is that they are the worst, If you have been transferred to them you might as well refinance the loan and move over to someone else. None of the support knows what they are doing.. absolutely illiterate in their ability to handle any situation that actually involves servicing a load.
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capebeau Send email
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Jul 15, 2015
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CENLAR: THE HORROR! THE HORROR!
We got dumped by the holder of our mortgage into CENLAR's house of horrors. Everything was OK until we filed an insurance claim. When we got the check it was made out to us and CENLAR. They are holding most the funds in escrow and won't release them. Their inspector certified months ago that all the required work has been completed but they won't release the funds unless we comply with their convoluted "monitored claim" process which is obviously designed to inflict as much pain and misery to the unsuspecting homeowner that they give up and CENLAR keeps or invests the money. It's been 5 months since our house received substantial damage and they still have our money. We had to use retirement money and credit cards to get the work done.
Sorry to be brief but the details are just too painful to re live. Like a nightmare.
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Mort Send email
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Nov 23, 2014
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Cenlar Mortgage - Problems already
Got a bill for my Property taxes and a bill for Home Owners Insurance - both of which are suppose to come out of my mortgage.
What were they doing with the money I sent them? It's only been a few months and it's already off to a very VERY bad start!
Doesn't anybody oversee this type of thievery? UGH!!
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[email protected] Send email
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Jul 16, 2014
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Holding overpayment funds
We paid off our mortgage due to a catastrophic fire loss and the insurance company made check payable to mortgage and said they would have to refund us the difference. This company had held almost $100,000 hostage for over 20 days. We are now at risk of having a closing on a new house delayed and our new rate lock expiring all because these people won't do their job and issue our refund check. We have been told that the check is in the mail at least 4 times over a period of 2 weeks and amazingly the check never arrives. If I did my job this way, I would be fired! How are they still able to do this with no repercussions? Who protects the individual in that massive government of ours?
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lmcalifornia Send email
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May 31, 2014
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Incompetence or fraud?
I thought we had it bad since Cenlar took over our loan in February of 2014, but after reading the complaint boards, I realize we have not suffered the worst of it. At least they are accepting our payments.
Here is my experience: The loan is co-owned by my wife and me, but only her name is in Cenlar's records. They have not corrected this, despite three requests over the past four months. Today, the customer service rep asked me to send them a copy of the signature page of our note, showing that I was on the loan. This jibes with every other experience I have had with them: what they should do, they require us to do.
The terms of our HARP loan include an escrow account to pay our insurance and property taxes. When the insurance came up for renewal last month, we got a threatening notice from Cenlar. I had to call them and tell them they were supposed to pay for it out of escrow and give them our agent's contact information. Yesterday, we received a notice stating that they needed proof of insurance coverage for two weeks in May and that their records show we have chosen to pay our insurance ourselves. I wish this were true! I am terrified of what will happen when our property tax comes due this fall - i don't trust Cenlar to make the payments and there are serious consequences for nonpayment of property taxes.
We had no trouble during the first 18 months of this loan, with our prior servicer. Whether Cenlar is just incompetent or is actually trying to push people into foreclosure because they benefit from the fees, I don't know. If at all possible, we will refinance, but I don't know if we will be able to get another loan right now, since I recently changed jobs and earn less than before.
Here's what I am going to do and I urge all others with complaints to do the same:
Report Cenlar to the New Jersey Secretary of State and to the Secretary of State of the state where you live.
New Jersey Department of State
225 W.State Street
P.O. Box 300
Trenton, NJ 08625
Email: [email protected]
Report Cenlar to the US Consumer Financial Protection Bureau:
Consumer Financial Protection Bureau
P.O. Box 4503
Iowa City, Iowa 52244
Fax (855) 237-2392
Consumer help line:
(855) 411-CFPB (2372)
TTY/TDD (855) 729-CFPB (2372)
8 a.m. – 8 p.m. Eastern, Monday–Friday
180+ languages available
File a complaint with the New Jersey Better Business Bureau. Despite 147 complaints filed, the company still has a BBB rating of B+. I suspect D or D- would be more accurate.
Individually, Cenlar can mess with us. Together, with assistance from regulators, we may be able to make a change. Good luck to all who have to deal with this atrocious company!
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mcdowell59 Send email
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Feb 24, 2014
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Alleged missing payment
Our mortgage was sold to CENLAR on Feb 3, 2014. On Feb 5 I sent our Feb payment by overnight Fed-Ex and received confirmation from Fed-Ex that the package had been received and signed for at CENLAR on Feb 6. CENLAR denies it was received! I have followed up with them 6 times and never received a response as to where my check is (it cost me $15 to send that payment by Fed-Ex) and all they can say to me is cancel the check and pay online. Guess what, their online system won't let me make a payment! I have never had a late mortgage payment and it seems that CENLAR are about as inept as it gets and are deliberately making it difficult for me to make a payment. They also had our mortgage insurance information incorrect in their system, alleging that it was due to expire in 2/14 when in fact we had made that payment and it is due again in 2/15. They also have not correctly recorded our PMI payments, alleging that the last payment was made in Dec 2013 when in fact our prior mortgage loan servicing company made a payment on 1/31/2014 (We have an escrow account). I am at my wits end trying to sort out this fiasco - and still 3 weeks after sending a payment, it has not been credited to my account. If I stop that check it will have cost me $30 to try and make a payment - it's like CENRALR is doing everything it can to not let me make a payment and then screw with me and my good credit. All that's left now is to call them and make payment by phone which I know I will have to do but it stinks to high heaven that no one is taking accountability for this unsatisfactory level of service. Most of my online and email questions to them have gone unanswered and those which were answered simply gave a canned response of "pay online or by phone"!
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Crusader Send email
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Mar 28, 2013
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Cenlar - Fraudulent Business Practices
I used to work for these people - I can't say when or where but I can tell you that they are most certainly screwing you intentionally. I strongly advise you check your credit report immediately and get away from them as quickly as possible by refinancing or selling, even if it costs you money up front. They play the game very well, and their skills are honed - they are banking on the fact that you are an ignorant consumer, who cannot afford to have your mortgage audited or hire an attorney.
They make their money off of foreclosures, not modifications or forebearance. Helping the homeowner is of no interest to them - morally or financially. They care nothing about you, the homeowner; the only ones who matter to them are their clients, the banks that lent you the money in the first place who have now cast you away.
I've seen it all:
*Purposely delayed payment posting, creating false late payments and fees
*Erroneous charges
*Escrow enforcement and deficiencies caused in order to make your payment unaffordable
*Force placed insurance when there are 10 faxes in the system proving that you do in fact have insurance
*Foreclosures being pursued when a modification is pending
*Documents they claim are lost or never received which gives them justification to deny your modification
*The list goes on...,.forever!
I am desperately trying to find someone of authority to help me get an investigation underway into shutting these people down and helping the victims of their schemes. Anyone who can assist me with this quest should contact me ASAP.
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